NEW: Beltchecker certificates now available
6 year(s) ago • 10785 views • 73 replies
After a lot of testing and planning logistics, we are now ready to issue Beltchecker rank certificates. There is a bunch of manual work involved in this, so ordering time is a bit longer than the ID cards (+they're slightly more expensive). - High quality, professional print on 200g matted paper - Thorough manual review by moderators of your profile, credentials and votes received (the more well documented profile, the better) - Moderator will contact you if there are any questions or requests for clarification - Certification badge on your profile (if approved by moderators after manual review) - QR code for live check of your verification status with any smartphone - Signature by minimum two moderators - Free world wide shipping from Europe - Price USD $39 (frame not included) https://beltchecker.com/c[...]ficate.php  |
"I'm curious, who are the moderators that sign off on the certificate? I assume Christian is one?" It's not me, I am staying out of that as I don't want any political gray zones there. It is the moderators who are doing all the checks and reviews on the profiles, which right now are: https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=139 (Katla, Denmark) https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=436 (Tatu, Finland) https://beltchecker.com/p[...].php?id=85 (Vilhjamur, Iceland) This can and will probably change along the way as the site evolves. But I will never be involved in reviews, nor signing, myself. |
"It's not me, I am staying out of that as I don't want any political gray zones there. It is the moderators who are doing all the checks and reviews on the profiles, which right now are: https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=139 (Katla, Denmark) https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=436 (Tatu, Finland) https://beltchecker.com/p[...].php?id=85 (Vilhjamur, Iceland) This can and will probably change along the way as the site evolves. But I will never be involved in reviews, nor signing, myself." I was hoping David Lang was signing all of them. :-) |
"It's not me, I am staying out of that as I don't want any political gray zones there. It is the moderators who are doing all the checks and reviews on the profiles, which right now are: https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=139 (Katla, Denmark) https://beltchecker.com/p[...]php?id=436 (Tatu, Finland) https://beltchecker.com/p[...].php?id=85 (Vilhjamur, Iceland) This can and will probably change along the way as the site evolves. But I will never be involved in reviews, nor signing, myself." So, no black belts signing off on the certs? |
"Not sure how that wouldn't create a 'political gray zone' by not having any black belts sign..." I agree with Dave that it's only an administrative function. This isn't a promotion certificate. It's only a certificate indicating your rank was verified by the Beltchecker.com community when you ordered the certificate. |
The belt rank of the person who is signing the certificate has nothing to do with their ability to properly review your profile, nor with your promotion :) I'm staying out of it because people see me as part of a certain affiliation. Beltchecker is neutral, non-affiliated and must remain such in all areas. (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
Tried to order, but got an error when trying to pay with Visa. Fatal error: Uncaught Stripe\Error\Card: Your card was declined. in /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiRequestor.php:214 from API request 'req_P94ujFtrsB8U1m' Stack trace: #0 /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiRequestor.php(173): Stripe\ApiRequestor::_specificAPIError('{\n "error": {\n...', 402, Object(Stripe\Util\CaseInsensitiveArray), Array, Array) #1 /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiRequestor.php(473): Stripe\ApiRequestor->handleErrorResponse('{\n "error": {\n...', 402, Object(Stripe\Util\CaseInsensitiveArray), Array) #2 /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiRequestor.php(126): Stripe\ApiRequestor->_interpretResponse('{\n "error": {\n...', 402, Object(Stripe\Util\CaseInsensitiveArray)) #3 /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiOperations/Request.php(57): Stripe\ApiRequestor->request('post', '/v1/charges', Array, Array) #4 /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiOperations/Create.php(23): Stripe\ApiResource::_staticRequest('post', '/v1/charges', Array, NULL) #5 /home/ in /home/jydjbjmy/public_html/stripe-php/lib/ApiRequestor.php on line 214 |
Okei, I’ve been looking too Long from the sidelines and I have to say something at this point, I think the whole beltchecker cult is insane, cards and certifications for money? Seriously? I thought that’s what you guys go against, the way I see you arguing about IBJJF is the same thing you’re doing on a smaller scale! |
"I think the difference is, neither are mandatory. More of a novelty. If you want one and you want to support the site then you can buy them. Personally I bought the card as it is a small cost and contributes towards the cause. I won't be buying a certificate I have no use for it. If you don't want one then there is no pressure for you to spend any money at all. The main difference being if you want to be a registered bb with the IBJJF you are mandatory obliged to pay 400USD and buy a certificate. It's not the same thing." It’s a popularity contest, nothing more, I know legit high level 3rd degree black belts who are on here and aren’t approved because they simply don’t know anyone from globetrotters, the system is flawed and putting out paid cards and certificates at this point it’s just ridiculous |
"Okei, I’ve been looking too Long from the sidelines and I have to say something at this point, I think the whole beltchecker cult is insane, cards and certifications for money? Seriously? I thought that’s what you guys go against, the way I see you arguing about IBJJF is the same thing you’re doing on a smaller scale!" Not the same thing, a crowdsourced alternative. And unlike IBJJF, validation here is free, the certificates/id cards are just if you want to support the site. It's free to use and advertisement free. So people can chose to chip in a bit if they like. I've been putting 6 months of work into it and server costs are already at a few hundred dollars a month, so any support is appreciated. (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
"I know legit high level 3rd degree black belts who are on here and aren’t approved because they simply don’t know anyone from globetrotters, the system is flawed and putting out paid cards and certificates at this point it’s just ridiculous" It's pretty silly at this point to say it has anything to do with Globetrotters. There are +10k users registered, FAR from the majority of them has anything to do that affiliation. How did you get 1200+ points yourself if you aren't part of Globetrotters? Just a week ago, 98% of completed profiles were verified, regardless of their affiliation. Average verification time here is ridiculously low compared to what it was two months ago. Who is the 3rd degree black belt you mention? :) (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
"It's pretty silly at this point to say it has anything to do with Globetrotters. There are +10k users registered, FAR from the majority of them has anything to do that affiliation. How did you get 1200+ points yourself if you aren't part of Globetrotters? Just a week ago, 98% of completed profiles were verified, regardless of their affiliation. Average verification time here is ridiculously low compared to what it was two months ago. Who is the 3rd degree black belt you mention? :)" I don’t think it matters at this point “who is the 3rd degree black belt you mentioned” neither “how did you get so many votes” No matter how many votes or people you have here, I think this system is seriously flawed and more like a popularity contest at this point then anything else, sorry but this is just a honest opinion from a 3rd person view. |
"I don’t think it matters at this point “who is the 3rd degree black belt you mentioned” neither “how did you get so many votes” No matter how many votes or people you have here, I think this system is seriously flawed and more like a popularity contest at this point then anything else, sorry but this is just a honest opinion from a 3rd person view." It was you who stated that "literally the only reason" for not getting verified was that he didn't know anyone from Globetrotters. I don't believe that to be true (statistics speak for itselves, imo). So of course it would be interesting to see if there was maybe something about his profile that could cause people to not vote for it (since completed profiles are being heavily voted for by the entire community here). As the designer of the system, I'm of course honestly curious to hear if there's anything to improve. And I'm always open for an adult debate about it, I think that's both healthy and interesting :) What's the serious flaw you feel there is? (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
I really didn't know anyone. I did some networking, friends of friends type thing, and got verified in 2 days with my pics and certificates. I also met some great new people, and invited them to an upcoming seminar, so it's all a win. I ordered a certificate mostly to just support the site. Yeah, it's a novelty, but it's kinda cool looking, and if the $40 pays for some hosting or maintainenve fees, it's all good. It's not mandatory, no one said I had to do it. It's kinda neat, it helps the site, sounds like a cool idea. (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
"Hey, an idea. Maybe there could be a blank spot for my professor to sign, after we receive the certificate? That way I could hang it up on the wall at the academy, and not step on anybodys toes." But the certificate is a proof that the community has voted to approve the rank, so I don’t see why there should be a signature field from an instructor on it :) Nor why anyone would feel offended by it, but each to their own, of course. Can’t he just sign somewhere on it? Should be plenty of room for that. |
"It's not me, I am staying out of that as I don't want any political gray zones there. It is the moderators who are doing all the checks and reviews on the profiles, which right now are: " Am I the only one concerned about one of the signing moderators potentially not even existing.... https://beltchecker.com/f[...]f77527e63d (Edited 6 year(s) ago) |
