Ethical or discriminatory: A Jiujitsu gym that wont train police officers
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I was not badged in that incident. I had no immunity. There is no job, worth losing your teeth, busting a nut, getting killed, or going to jail for.... If you are in the military, or are a sworn defender of the peace, with a Badge, That is one thing. But, otherwise, don't throw your life away, or kill people, over silly shit. That doesn't mean anything. Nor foolish clients. There are better ways to earn a living. And, many other ways, to earn a living. Nobody pays security goons, What it is worth, to take those risks, or those hits. If you are in those professions, exercise all due Risk Management, as a Professional, or not at all. I recommend a vest, there are discrete ones, if your employer, hates signaling, or those optics. Invest your own money, in your kit. It's not like anybody else but you, will see to your own safety. Or those you are hired to protect. They, our clients, most of all. They are the risk, we manage, when we take those roles. |
Outstanding! I wish they all did years ago, but, better late than never.... For that matter, I wish all LEOs and ALL Federal agents wore them on any raid, search warrrant, planned bust, or planned mission where escalation can be expected. In the United States, the Public has a right to that transparency, and the government serves at the will of the People. https://www.mysuncoast.co[...]mediately/ |
"Outstanding! I wish they all did years ago, but, better late than never.... For that matter, I wish all LEOs and ALL Federal agents wore them on any raid, search warrrant, planned bust, or planned mission where escalation can be expected. In the United States, the Public has a right to that transparency, and the government serves at the will of the People. https://www.mysuncoast.co[...]mediately/" Better and more training in addition would be a good choice, too! |
I think the choice to not serve someone purely because you feel a political pressure not to is a bit ignorant, but what ever. Now, if they felt that training law enforcement was a liability to their business, I could understand that. From a business perspective, though, you really shut out a good portion of prospective members. Not only are you losing the LE folks, but you are losing those who are retired LE or those who support them. Likely losing firefighters and military, too. I think stuff like this shows that we are not far separated from the early 20th century. Segregating a class of people purely because you don't like them or because your political party doesn't like them. It's wildly childish and ignorant. |
"Better and more training in addition would be a good choice, too!" Most always. If you were to ask the other LEO agencies (I have been raising this question to my LEO colleagues) they will tell you that ICE has a fine reputation as investigators, historically. You are in Law Enforcement, so you know better than I, that there are multiple different skills sets, needed for different scenarios. An agency could be the most highly trained agents in one area, but not so much, in the other. If we carry our confidence with us, from one domain, to another, where our skillset does not transfer as we thought it might... As Muhammad Ali used to say, everyone has a great plan, until they get punched in the face. Couple that with rapid expansion of the agents, to supply the mission demand, that is a pickle. There is not an agency, in the United States, perfectly suited to handling pissing matches between Governors, Mayors, Sheriffs, and the Feds, and POTUS. Where funding and organization of the one side, may be occurring in willful disobedience, accompanied with the threats of civil violence. And, the POTUS / Federal side, seems to be moving very fast, precisely because they are aware those dynamics are in play, and those dynamics, when coupled with elections, can easily subvert the democratic process, upon which we rely. Not to mention, POTUS was targeted for political legal harassments in astounding ways, during his campaigns, and POTUS seems a tit for tat kind of guy. For that matter, his opponents, actually shot him, and tried to kill him, as the ultimate means of election interference. So, I think that there are some serious dynamics in play, with multiple opposed sides, who each have badged, sworn, LEOs at their command, but conflicting imperatives. There are the Bill of Rights for individuals, then there are States Rights, a Federal primacy clause, and other legal distinctions, which are not trivial to our system. So, this is a particularly, complicated problem set. I do not address who is right, or who is wrong. Merely that there are complications to this Watch. |






